OVERFIELD, Pa. — We're learning more about a Wyoming County man killed during an altercation with police. It happened Wednesday afternoon near Lake Winola.
42-year-old Brian Williams was killed in that altercation with police after he refused to answer a warrant for a doctor-ordered mental health evaluation. According to sources close to the investigation, the warrant was issued because it was believed Williams posed a danger to himself or those around him.
Williams was first Tasered, then eventually shot by police at his home along Route 307 in Overfield Township.Williams, who was a long-time volunteer firefighter with the Lake Winola Hose Company, was pronounced dead a short time later by the Wyoming County coroner.
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Erik BrotemarkleFriday, November 09, 2012 3:58:47 PMSend the officers for mandated mental health. They posed the risk to him.
Erik WilhideFriday, November 09, 2012 5:44:59 PMFirefighter or not u got to listen to cops. His fault
Friday, November 09, 2012 5:57:37 PMWhy does it seem that anyone who is confronted by the police, always seem to instantly make claims that the police MUST BE, and ARE always the bad guys?
Think about that, next time you need a cop, or firefighter. They have this problem, like all of us. They are HUMAN too!
Crystal Cassel KramerFriday, November 09, 2012 6:07:31 PMSo they were going to get him for MENTAL issues, and shoot him when he refuses to go...obviously they were aware this was an issue prior to going. Sad situation!
Jake PrattFriday, November 09, 2012 6:12:09 PMShame on Fire Rescue for not providing all the details. And same goes for those of you blaming the officers without knowing the whole story. Williams charged the officers with a fireplace poker when they arrived at his house. They first tried to tase him, however it was ineffective. Williams continued charging the officers and they shot him.
Jake PrattFriday, November 09, 2012 6:14:01 PMGive me a break, they didn't just shoot him for refusing to go.
Ryan VidegainFriday, November 09, 2012 6:14:11 PMBefore you are so quick to judge these officers remember that police officers do not want to take someone's life. Officers will do what is necessary to protect themselves and the public. It's funny that officers work day and night to keep the public safe yet when they do have to take a life it's the public who immediately attacks them. Just for your info officers are required to take a psych evaluation after an officer involved shooting.
Paul SiroisFriday, November 09, 2012 6:22:59 PMI agree with Erik. No matter what the situation is. You have to listen to the police. Argue the matter later on.
Brooks StahlneckerFriday, November 09, 2012 6:31:48 PMHe attacked them with a fireplace poker...sounds justifiable !
Crystal Cassel KramerFriday, November 09, 2012 6:42:13 PMwell reading the article posted that information is not postex..
Erik BrotemarkleFriday, November 09, 2012 9:55:35 PMI wasn't trying to pass judgement on the officers. They get put in crappy positions. I was just pointing out the irony that they were there to protect him from himself.
Bobby WhitmoreSaturday, November 10, 2012 3:10:27 AMCome on... A fireplace poker wielding man and they needed all them cops and a gun to subdue him.... sad.......... If he had a gun? I'd say ok...A fireplace poker????
Heather LangstonSaturday, November 10, 2012 6:45:23 AMWithout all of the information, no one should be condemning anyone. If there was a doctor's order for a mental health evaluation, then there was a serious problem. And, as a former police officer myself, less than lethal means of control do not always work. Sounds like the officers tried, but their job is to stop the threat. Terrible situation for everyone involved.
John CasselSaturday, November 10, 2012 6:59:51 AMDon't fuck with the po-po!!!
Michael BeverlySaturday, November 10, 2012 1:10:29 PMWhat confuses me is... its a Fire poker... Was it nessecary to SHOOT him?
Michael ScantlandSaturday, November 10, 2012 1:18:59 PMThis is a strange story and also it pits the Fire against the Police in this town now. If he came at him or had a weapon I can see it, but when hes tasered correctly and proper technics are utilized to gain control there is no need for deadly force.
And now the first responders are on the line because they can not comment on the incident they are state witness's now. Pretty sad, I'm reading alot of Fire and Police altercations. Really more on everyone,
As the newbee rookie Police force in the USA is being filed by war vets, were going to see more trigger happy incidents leading to death, when otherwise a common sense approach to normal upset already stressed public could have been used.
Just in my area I met gun ho rookies that have no personal skills and have hands on weapons. I had a room mate that moved out a year ago have a traffic warrent. I had the swat team surround my house at 3:am set off my motion lights in a private area. I grabbed me AR15 and almost got shot. I heard GUN GUN as I peaked out the window no more than 5 five Glocks lights pointed at me.
He clearly didn't live and his address was changed, Am I lucky YES... At face on this story, this guy was upset, tasered and then filled with lead. All his years of public service ended with another mans license to kill. Plan and simple. You hear of gun or weapon wheeling people trying to kill people... I'm not reading it here...
Sad very sad...
Mike CassaniSaturday, November 10, 2012 1:33:25 PMI'm a firefighter not a cop. But if I were and a man kept coming at me after being tazed I would shoot him as well. I will make every effort to go home to my family.
Ryan SessionsSaturday, November 10, 2012 1:37:46 PMNot passing judgement on this story, but I think overall police are too quick to shoot people. It's part of the job to take some risk on getting injured. Try to subdue him until something does happen before shooting them. This would be the same as firefighters never going into a house fire but just simply playing it safe by always fighting defensive from the outside. We take risks as part of our job and don't pull out until something happens. I think cops should be more willing to do the same. Again, this is a general statement. For instance, the guy in the wheelchair that got shot because he tried to assault a cop with a pen? c'mon, you can survive a pen wound!
Will DixonSaturday, November 10, 2012 1:48:40 PMA fire poker is just a miniature pike pole. They're not uncommon murder weapons and can inflict massive trauma.
Bubba YermahSaturday, November 10, 2012 2:00:47 PMWhat really sucks is that he probably cracked from post traumatic stress. Firefighters and law enforcement are often faced with situations that are an unbelievable mental burden. I feel bad for all involved.
Joshua StewartSaturday, November 10, 2012 2:32:35 PMWhy shoot to kill though? Shoot to disarm him, bring him down, then arrest him. There was no need for him to be shot and killed.
Joshua FennellySaturday, November 10, 2012 2:51:21 PMClassic Police... Who was at the scene to witness other then the shooters?
Tim WoodellSaturday, November 10, 2012 3:22:53 PMPolice pussies. Won't man enough take him bare handed.
Alastar McCollumSaturday, November 10, 2012 4:40:14 PMThis is what really should have happened, there should have been a doctor with sedatives there to calm the man down, this is nothing more the suicide by police, he was wrong and they were wrong, none of us were there, but I do believe that a friend or family member being there would have also calmed the man down some.
Saturday, November 10, 2012 4:48:31 PMJust another incident of coward, psychopaths with lethal weapons murdering another human being. They should charged, convicted, and executed for murder! Hopefully the family or friends of the victim will take matters into their own hands.
Bobby WhitmoreSaturday, November 10, 2012 7:13:55 PMThats exactly what I posted... Had it been a gun?....ok.....But a fp poker?? Really???
Michael BeverlySaturday, November 10, 2012 7:17:35 PMWill - Yet they haven't been trained to deal with items like that through hand-to-hand? Its called going to one side, grabbing the pole, yanking it down, then wrestling the man into cuffs. Not Shoot him.
Kurtis CookSunday, November 11, 2012 5:41:49 AMThat sucks!
Brittany MinnickSunday, November 11, 2012 3:03:41 PMThat is just sad! I have no words for te police! My heart goes out to the FF family!
Monday, November 12, 2012 8:21:58 AMJust another incident of unreasoning cowards with lethal weapons. If it was a family member of the spineless cops involved, there would have been no murder involved. A reasonable, prudent person would have stepped back and let the situation defuse. Cops intentionally escalate situations in order to use violence. To you so called "firefighters" way to have your brother's back; I wouldn't want you anywhere near me on a fireground. The perp who pulled the trigger that murdered the victim should be charged, convicted, and executed, but that will never happen for the fact that criminals don't convict their own..
Monday, November 12, 2012 8:33:15 AMRyan V. cops are not there to protect you that's your job. They are there to use violence to enforce the rules of their and your masters. Keep drinking the kool-aid little buddy; you're a good little slave.
Larry ViaTuesday, November 13, 2012 6:18:14 AMwow tase a man and then shot him! I am learning not to trust cops more every day it will be bad when firefighters start shooting back.
Donald Mochrie Jr.Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:26:14 AMlarry this is said i have only lived in pa since may and wish we could move back to ny cause the state police use deadly force and beat the shit out of people before doing anything calm.....plus we also have das and judges who do illegal crap as well....long story on all but i feel this families pain and if you ever wanna see some of the shit they do let me know.......
Ron HinkleTuesday, November 13, 2012 6:38:32 AMwow...