Chief Dan Rogers explains his views about volunteer passion, engagement and why not everyone wants to operate like FDNY

Exploring how fire service leaders can come to peace with the idea that not all volunteers will exhibit the same level of commitment to the department

In this episode of the Side Alpha podcast, Assistant Chief Dan Rogers explains discusses his article, “And that’s OK: Not all volunteers want to operate like FDNY,” which generated considerable debate and discussion among FireRescue1 community members. Rogers underscores that volunteers have lives beyond the station walls, and we can’t force them to all have the same level of commitment and passion, even if it means frustration when fewer members show up to non-fire calls. Chief Bashoor reads some of the social media reactions, giving Chief Rogers a chance to address readers who disagree and those who support his sentiment.

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